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May 04
2008
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Professional image: a re-thinkPosted by mariathedreamer in website, mariathedreamer, business |
For the last few years, I've had a basic website. Just a few short stories and a bit of a bio. Now, I'm thinking its time to step things up. I have this Z2H win under my belt, and soon will have an online comic to link to. I've got some kid's chapter books I'm going to start agressively submitting to agents/publishers.
I'm wondering what other folks are doing... for example:
Are you using your personal name as your domain name or something else?
Either way, why did you opt to go that route?
Is your site strictly your 'creative pitch' to the world?
Has anyone built anything into their website to accommodate 'fans'?
Has anyone created a professional 'brand' for themselves?
Some folks, like genrewriter, we know are published under a variety of names. Where do his fans go? Yen has a website under her personal name, but it seems crackwalker doesn't.
At some point, any of us who are serious creatives need to give this some consideration. Any thoughts, comments, experiences, would be helpful to lots around here I'm sure. (no need to reveal any 'top secret' business secrets!)
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written by genrewriter, May 04, 2008
All of my names use my real name ('Nick') in some form or other, so I really wanted to use www.Nick.com...but Nickelodean snagged that domain name a long time ago. I think www.nick.net might be available, but when people skip Google and go straight to typing in domain names, they automatically think to try .com first.
And, yeah, should I try to 'brand' myself somehow?
Good questions raised by MTD, but I have no answers!
Actually, I will give the opinion that I believe more and more fans are expecting to get a feel for the writer's (artist's, musician's) true personality and lifestyle through their blogs, etc. Whether that's something we should be comfortable with sharing is a tough question.
written by Fetternity, May 05, 2008
There a re some who don't do that, or post under a collective name. I don't know how appropriate that is for a writer, though.
As for brand names, I'd say only do that if you can produce merchandising or something along those lines, and maybe stick it on a different site.
And finally, blogging... One thing I tell everyone I know is that the moment it's on the Internet, it's there for life. Doesn't matter if you delete it, doesn't matter if you privatize it. It has been, at the very least, cached somewhere and can be accessed somehow. So, my recommendation is always to be at the very least honest in your online communications. A white lie is one thing, but a lie that is logged and refered to in the future always comes back to haunt you. Case in point: Pat Lee and Chuck Austen.
Plus, being irrational loses you everything, no matter how right you are. Case in point: John Byrne.
I have had a blog for a long time now and I've privatized a lot of my older entries, due to drama and other shits I don't care to ventilate anymore. All I can say is, always think of what you will be doing in the future when showing something on the Internet, and never about the present.
It helped me revamp my personal image... somewhat :)
written by Yen, May 05, 2008
On the other hand, are we more desensitized to seeing the personal stuff? Is it no longer very weird to see pictures of, say, a co-worker's stagette party?
Fett, re: branding, I think we're talking overall image branding here, not necessarily t-shirts and bumper stickers... in the same way a small design company might have a website, or a logo and a business card... many artists/writers have something akin to that. Some public face. I think it's a question of how far we really want to take it. Does it really help? Could it make you, as an artist, seem more corporate somehow? I really don't know!
Agree on 'what you put out there stays out there' lessons. In the early days of the internet, I wrote something on a Sailor Moon fan site (I was young, and there were classes to be skipped and TV to watch), not really thinking the internet was all THAT important. For several years, that posting was there for all to see -- pretty much the only thing my name was attached to online. Guh.
Also, there's currently a video of me out there that used to be *everywhere* -- where I look hideous. Like I just escaped from Bountiful or something. Folks, never sign a waiver saying someone can put video of you online unless you're sure you're okay with it being bloody everywhere, throughout the universe and in perpetuity.
written by Fetternity, May 05, 2008
Regarding branding. I say: oh LULZ now I get it :D
Yeah, logos are cool. I endorse logos, no matter who you are or what you do.
written by mekikas, May 05, 2008
Interesting fact--I am a project manager at Data System Designs, who knew?
According to my blog, I and my wife(damn forgot the name I will have to look it up) just went on a cruise--I must have been hammered the whole time because I really don't remember that.
and the fourth hit was something about Zeros2Heroes and Mekikas' blog--oh wait that one is true.
My point is, how does anyone know what they are looking up on the internet is A)true and B) pertains to the individual in question.
You can't believe everything you read especially on the internet so it is kind of iritating that potential employers would make that a make it or break it kind of thing.
True story, or so I read, a family was disturbed by the police one evening because of a spike in their utilities bill(a key sign of a grow op) and when the homeowner was questioned/surveyed about the spike his answer was because they had just installed a heated pool, but when the police google earthed him there was no pool so they raided his home based on facts accumulated on the internet...nice that peolple stopped thinking for themselves and decided to let the world wide web do it for them(comment on the employers not those who are forced to represent themselves to those employers "truthfully" on the net--that one could come back to bite me on the ass, maybe I should back out and enter this comment as a guest--)
Kind of a sidebar there to Carmen's question, should have maybe put it in my own blog(after the entry about the cruise) sorry.
written by Tenzil Kem, May 05, 2008
It was on old Google Earth image the cops looked at, allegedly.
written by Tenzil Kem, May 05, 2008
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
written by Tenzil Kem, May 05, 2008
written by Crackwalker, May 05, 2008
Some time ago, I decided that any 'company' or 'studio' I ran would be called 'Rootwood' - so I guess that's my personal brand. When I am doing work that is my own, I use that name - I sort of have a personal philosophy behind the 'Rootwood' idea - a vision statement and a manifesto and that sort of junk. That's my main website, where I have my portfolio and resume and stuff like that.
I have another website for 50/50 Comics, which is my main independent comics effort. My buddy Atomic Skull and I came up with this comic story we wanted to do together; it was a collaboration, composed of ideas from the two of us, so we wanted to name our 'indy comics production entity' something that represented our vibe. 50/50 fit the bill. I sort of try and direct my comics-related activity in that direction.
And then 'Crackwalker' is a name I've used enough that some people recognize me from some website or forum or contest I was involved in. It's become my online persona.
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So I think there's no way to avoid branding. People want to label you, because it makes things easy. If you label yourself, at least you have some measure of control over your image.
written by hadesillustrations, May 05, 2008
If you can get a nice website together, or even a myspace or facebook page, you can get loads of popularity by updating it with some new art or a blog once a week. It gets people coming back to the page to see what's new. Then, they might tell a friend and your fan base will grow that way.
written by xman, May 05, 2008
I don't have a web site, but it's something I should do and the longer I let it go, the more I regret it. It would have been nice, for example, to have somewhere to point the judges and voters for the playWRITE competition, somewhere that's clearly and quintessentially mine. My excuse has been financial, but it's probably truer to admit that I've procrastinated on that. Administration is a weakness of mine.

But more and more, I discovered that people were Googling me to find out more about me. (Not 'fans'; either because I was up for a gig on something, or people who heard or met me at poetry readings; stuff like that.) And I realized that either I could let Google decide what foot of mine was being put forward, or I could take it into my own hands. I'm very glad I did. I think we simply live in a world where people are going to look you up online...
I used my name as my domain name because for my purposes, they needed to match. I wanted my site to come up when someone searched for my full name.
When I was working with the designer of my website (my dude's brother, who is an artist & web designer) I wasn't thinking 'let's brand me' so much as 'I want something PRETTY!' But as it turned out, I liked the design so much I extended it to my blog, and have had the design adapted into postcards I can use in real life.
My general feeling is that this is my creative self online. Neither my site, nor my blog, are particularly personal. I haven't quite ventured there yet, but have been thinking about it... I love when other people are transparent... maybe I will get brave too.
I think this is a really great topic, Maria. I still feel a bit of embarrassment in thinking about self-marketing or self-branding, but this is a great place to really have this conversation! I'd love to hear other people's perspectives.