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Season Four Query
Why is young Enzo in season four,end of three 0-1. I know he's a copy the system backup, but Enzo was 1-0 in Painted Windows and they were on a tight time frame to sort everything out before the system backed up, so therefore wouldn't the backup of Enzo made be 1-0 not 0-1.

Posted by GlitchBobWasTheBest on August 28, 2007 11:30
cuz fans liked 01 better than v10 for season 2, that's why.

Posted by tompreston on August 28, 2007 14:01
Maybe they just wanted to bring back the Enzo from the very first episode, the one who has yet seen nothing of war and suffering.

Posted by etoile37 on August 28, 2007 17:26
i'm not complaining. I was feeling rather dissapointed that the enzo i loved grew up to be an arrogant jerk like Matrix is. No amount of sympathy for what his character has been through will budge me on that point.

Posted by tompreston on August 28, 2007 18:06
I guess 01 Enzo just came out that way because maybe that's when the last MAJOR backup was?

I don't think Matrix is arrogant at all, he does not come off as that at all. He does come off as a Jerk sometimes but he's been harden by his experiences. Bob changes a lot in the Web, and if Enzo stayed the same as an adult it would've been a bad story choice I think.

Posted by Squall142 on August 28, 2007 21:17
Matrix was an awesome character in season 3, I'd even say perfect! But in season 4, he was really a jerk...

Posted by etoile37 on August 28, 2007 21:50
Well they lost all their time to make Season 4 so some things came out odd. Stupid CN and WB... Ergh!!!

Posted by Squall142 on August 28, 2007 22:57
I think Matrix comes off as a Jerk in Season 4 because in Season 3 he didn't have anyone telling him what to do...he was his own man. But now that he's back with his family has people to answer to which he isn't used to. So he bitches and gets annoyed a lot and comes off jerky in the process. It makes sense.

Posted by xmenotux on August 28, 2007 23:45
I guess so, but in the end it's because their time limit got cut and Season 4 was rushed. It's hard to develop characters like that.

Posted by Squall142 on August 29, 2007 00:13
Even after finding Bob and going back to Mainframe, Matrix was not a jerk in season 3, he was working as a team with the others.

Posted by etoile37 on August 29, 2007 15:13
Of course, he wanted to get rid of "Megabreath"/"Megabarf" haha

Posted by Squall142 on August 29, 2007 18:30
On the subject of Season 4, I hpoe you guys don't mind if I switch the topic over from Matrix to Daemon to save space.

One of the things I've always wondered about was whether or not Daemon was completely aware of what her "ultimate function" was.

As far as Viruses go, she was unique from every other seen thus far. If anything, she was portrayed as a christ-like figure that would unite everything and everyone.

So what I'm really wondering is if she had any idea that really she was programmed to destroy everything.

One scene to support this theory is when she asks to "send a zoom room before someone is deleted"

Why would a virus care if someone was about to be deleted? isn't that the song and dance of all viruses? "predatory by design," as Megabyte put it.

Still, this loathing of deletion is a curious trait to find in her, and it's interesting to note that there is only one other character who seems to show this same dislike for deletion, and that is the show's main protagonist, Bob Himself.

in the one instance where Daemon did delete someone (Deacon) she didn't do it out of malice or for any personal reason... Deacon was horribly upset with himself for failing her, and to Daemon's credit... she smiles a forgiving smile and starts his countdown. I saw this, based on her facial expressions, more of a mercy killing than anything else.

Daemon also tells AndrAIa that she's "very lucky," lamenting how she isn't programmed for "that type of love" in reference to Matrix. Again, her heart seems to warm when Dot rushes to an injured Bob, and she interprets this as an act based out of love. She may not have been programmed to love in the way others do, but she frequently expresses a desire to feel loved... what it's like, and why it happens.

So how could someone so peaceful and intrigued by the idea of love knowingly delete everything around her? This is why there's part of me that feels Daemon did not completely know what her "ultimate function" would bring about.

Then again, there's also a part of me that feels like if she was aware what her ultimate function was, she took it like so:

"I'm a walking time bomb that's reluctantly going to blow to smitherines and delete everything else with me. I might as well infect everyone else too, so that all can spend their last few days in peace and harmony."

That seems to make sense with her character. what do you guys think?

Posted by Domestibot on August 30, 2007 16:43
I watched the episode "Sacrifice" over and over again to see Hexadecimal and Daemon duke it out. Not that it was the BEST of fight scenes in any show, but because of what it represented. Chaos versus Order. They gave us the pros and cons to both, showing the insanity of Hexadecimal, and the damn near almighty Daemon. Daemon and Hex have the same goals the same ideals, but go about it in different means, in the end the show's theme seemed to profess that Chaos does conquer all. but I have to wonder if Daemon didn't want what Hex has now, to be transcended, to be apart of everything, loved by everything, hated by everything.

Posted by InkatHeart on August 30, 2007 23:25
Well I don't remember what Daemon said specifically but I'm sure she didn't want Bob deleted (I'd have to see the scene again to make sure).

She knew her function, EVERYONE does, she wanted to bring Unity to the Net, make it all one. If she was against deletion, she would be to bring more people and make them one.

Posted by Squall142 on August 31, 2007 11:57
I agree with squall, besides if she didn't know her function then how would she know she had to infect everything before her own countdown ended.

Posted by GlitchBobWasTheBest on September 4, 2007 01:15
I do have another question. Was AndraIa ever registered to mainframe. Little Enzo came back in 'end prog' cos he was registered and matrix icon was still in game sprite mode so the system didnt recognise him when checking for PID's. However I watched the last four episodes again last night and AndraIa's icon was also i n game sprite mode the whole time, so if she was registered where's little AndraIa

Posted by GlitchBobWasTheBest on September 4, 2007 01:18
You sure Andraia was in game sprite mode? I thought she was just in sprite mode. :S

Posted by Raidensbinome on September 4, 2007 02:42
I couldn't see the icon very well i've only got a small telly, but it looked triangular not round.

Posted by GlitchBobWasTheBest on September 4, 2007 10:42
The problem with the new Enzo is that he really doesnt have the soul we knew from the original Enzo, thats probably why he reverted back before he turned 10 in Talnet Night. They also needed some type of comic relief back since original Enzo is now older.

Posted by rebootglitch on September 4, 2007 12:56
Well Enzo was originally from Mainframe, him missing from Mainframe and not being a null brought him back. AndrAIa would be someone who "moved" to Mainframe. I guess that's the best way to explain it heh

Posted by Squall142 on September 4, 2007 17:42
I think they only upgraded Enzo at first in the early season for the technical reason that his shoulder pads went into him :p

"I watched the episode "Sacrifice" over and over again to see Hexadecimal and Daemon duke it out. Not that it was the BEST of fight scenes in any show,"

Was one of the best fight scenes I have ever seen :p

Seriously, as an animator, I find it gobsmackingly good.
Sure, its not square-enix quality graphics, but in terms of pacing, weight, movement....its perfect.
Far better then any cartoon-esq fight scene from the Matrix Revolutions or Advent Children.

The end of Deamon Rising felt real. It felt epic.

Posted by Darkflame on September 8, 2007 17:12