Javascript must be enabled in your browser to use this page.
Please enable Javascript under your Tools menu in your browser.
Once javascript is enabled Click here to go back to Zeros 2 Heroes - The People's Publisher

All Posts for May 2008

  • 0
  • 0
Okay, so still no feedback on the Alpha character concept I posted a few days back. This means one of two things: either nothing's wrong...

Okay, so still no feedback on the Alpha character concept I posted a few days back. This means one of two things: either nothing's wrong with it, or it's so awful that people can't even bring themselves to negatively comment on it. Or, my timing is shit and I posted it mere moments before the ReBoot comic went live, thus relegating the post to invisibility.

 At any rate, I did an editing run on the Issue One script for Subject Alpha. Moved panels around, tightened up dialogue, fixed typos, etc. Reworked the fight scene a bit. Feedback would be lovely. 

Top Rated Comment of 4

Cancerbaby

Sun Jun 1st, 2008 17:29

Oh snap, I just realized my post title implies date rape. Sorry! I suppose it's still better than my other title choice, 'Chloroform can't say no.'

  • 0
  • 0
Allow me to throw the politically correct language out the window for a single blog post.  First and only disclaimer, though: I don't really hate HBO. I just hate individual things.I'm just about ready to jam an...

Allow me to throw the politically correct language out the window for a single blog post.  First and only disclaimer, though: I don't really hate HBO. I just hate individual things.

I'm just about ready to jam an icepick through my left eardrum. It's starting to hurt so much, I want out of this vicious hell.

 

That unbrearable torture that is the Sex and the City movie coming out just might indicate the end of malekind as we know it.

I don't care that three-quarters of the Western World's female population who ever came into contact with a cable TV set over the last 15 years are panting and drying their nails at the mention of this feature film. I don't really mind that the representation of the peak male lover in that universe is a rich, laid-back, irresponsible and mostly blasé-looking amorphous clot. And even as a fashion designer, I certainly don't care for scores of Louboutin shoes and other atrocities.

In reality, it all comes down to this:
Those 4 women impersonate on screen, without a hint of shame, everything that is wrong with our current society, and even claim to be proud of it.

Couple of years ago, 4 actors played in a comedy show celebrated as sitcom's best comedy show for 9 years. Do you hear the cast from Seinfeld talking about how fucking important they ever were to the world? Of what their "contribution" to the mainstream ever represented to them?

Hailing Sex and the City as thoughtful, deep and in touch with our modern age is about as accurate as calling a McDonald's cheeseburger "Fine Cuisine". Remember Demolition Man's Taco Bell? That warped, I swear to Gods.

I hate SATC with an unholy passion, and it's not because I know what it is superficially. It's because I know about superficiality in our society, which is a hell of a difference. It's quite similar to having someone take you by the hand and pull you over on the dancefloor with the hidden and oh-so-not-gonna-tell-you intention of having a reason to go out there to wink at that cute guy in the corner with the fashionable loafers and the tanned torso under his half-open D&G shirt, but you know the truth of why he wants to look like that at all times and you will never stoop down to that level, oh no!

 Please, PLEASE let us have Hulk already to wash, stomp, smash and greenify the silver screen, ASAP!

 

...

 

...okay, that felt good.

Top Rated Comment of 19

Yen

Sat May 31st, 2008 03:49

This made me laugh! Fetternity, usually your cantankerousness is so understandable... but I've read this a couple of times and still don't really understand! I'm getting the hatred... and as a woman...

  • 0
  • 0
Well, considering the comment engine for the comic is really limited--I could rant for pages and it'd probably cut off somewhere.  That's what the blog is good for! :D BTW I'm very excited we finally see the first...

Well, considering the comment engine for the comic is really limited--I could rant for pages and it'd probably cut off somewhere.  That's what the blog is good for! :D

 BTW I'm very excited we finally see the first chapter come to fruititon!  It's been nearly a full year since this project was launched, and I've been waiting in the wings for any progress.

I remember last year I tried my damn hardest to get any kind of attention or leave any kind of impact with my concepts onto the creators for the winning pitch.  I'm glad to see their story has evolved so much so far.

Props to Ale for churning out so many pages of pencils, and props to the revisions made to those pencils!  But what happened after the first handful of pages?  The last dash of pages I've noticed things starting to slip by in the revisions--for instance, the mono-ass.  Ale dun wanna draw asses?

The page with Matrix watching Bob and Dot from the alleyway... that page was riddled with fixable anatomy mistakes.  Lack of abs (when nearly every page is riddled with ab-tastic males), and an appearnace of the mono-ass (this time, it isn't BSnP to blame.  Remember Dot's mono-boob in season 1&2?).  Not to mention some facial tweaks, and pose weirdness. 

Sorry for jumping around, but I don't have the comic to stare at page-for-page, just going from what I remember caught my attention.  The page where Bob and Turbo are meeting the Codemasters for the first time.  What's up with Bob being in profile?  His crotch... is kinda awkward.  Either change his position... or... do... something with that crotch.  His uniform (and lack of belt) just make me feel like Bob is next-to-naked.

 Does this comic get one last art-direction revision before it's published?  I'd be disappointed as an artist seeing such a strong start, and a weak finish--artistically.

I might not be the greatest artist in the world, or able to pull off everything the team has done, but I know from years of college art classes, I've developed an eye for these things at least. 

 

 P.S. Is Z2H doing anything for this year's ComicCon?  I missed your booth somehow last year when you were launching the project, but this year I would love to catch up with you guys.  (In between trying to find the elusive Tite Kubo... :3) 

Top Rated Comment of 4

Fetternity

Fri May 30th, 2008 21:46

I can garantee you that no Art Director will want to change a page that's been carefully drawn, inked, colored and lettered for simple tweaks. I think you're being a little hard on them considering...

  • 0
  • 0
Hello everyone!  First I apologize for my lack of participation in the last month or so.  I have been overwhelmed by different projects, the end of semester, getting ready for grad school, etc...  Now, I...

Hello everyone!

 First I apologize for my lack of participation in the last month or so.  I have been overwhelmed by different projects, the end of semester, getting ready for grad school, etc... 

 Now, I finally have some free time + a great work schedule, which means I'll have more time to spend here.  :)   I really want to take advantage of the hiatus to update and revamp my pitch Polarity. 

I always swore to myself that I wouldn't push it down people's throat through massive self-promotion in order to win, so I watched its progression as it slowly got people's interest.  In the last weeks of the C:CCN, my pitch fluctuated a lot between the top positions of the chart,  but never stayed in the #1 slot long enough to win.  

 It leads me to wonder what people really think of it.  I'd really like some constructive feedbacks and honest comments because I really want to improve my pitch and see it produced. 

 I'm asking you, what does it take to get your vote on my pitch?  What do you like/don't you like?  Feel free to be honest, either by commenting here or sending me a PM.  I'm totally open to any criticism and I don't bite.  :) 

 For those who haven't collected/read it yet, here is the link:

http://www.zeros2heroes.com/pitch/489

Thanks in advance!

Top Rated Comment of 9

mekikas

Fri May 30th, 2008 22:46

Hey. Haven't looked at your pitch yet. I had such big plans for the hiatus. Was going to read tons of pitches I hadn't read yet. Was going to add a ton of stuff to the pitches I have up already. Was...

  • 0
  • 0
Hey All, ReBoot Site is up with the new comic. It crashed our site at Midnight PST, enough said. Cheers,

Hey All,

ReBoot Site is up with the new comic. It crashed our site at Midnight PST, enough said.

Cheers,

Top Rated Comment of 13

Crackwalker

Fri May 30th, 2008 16:45

I can't find it - linkage?

  • 0
  • 0
Hey, you know what's fun? Writing an entry via tablet! Although my handwriting is really awful and the thing keeps messing up my words. I blame any second-grade English teacher. Okay, that's enough of that. I cracked open...

Hey, you know what's fun? Writing an entry via tablet! Although my handwriting is really awful and the thing keeps messing up my words. I blame any second-grade English teacher.

 Okay, that's enough of that. I cracked open Photoshop and scratched out a really really rough concept scribble of Alpha. I'm by no means an artist, but hopefully it'll get the idea across.

 

There are a few design choices I'm still not sure about, mainly:

  • I'm getting a weird David Bowie vibe from the head fin, but I haven't come up with anything better to cover up his grotesque skull yet.
  • whether or not I should keep the myomer/metal bands/whatever the hell they turn out to be on the neck and legs.
  • the kilt/loincloth. I threw that in 'cause I'm not yet brave enough to try drawing a fish crotch.
  • keeping the tail. It's pretty, but it looks like it might get in the way and doesn't quite make sense from a biological standpoint. Here's what he looks like without it:

 Any help?

Top Rated Comment of 2

n3k0_b0i

Sun Jun 1st, 2008 20:06

i kinda like it better without the tail

  • 0
  • 0
Today's blog is brought to you by the letters A to Z (that's Zed for our American friends) and the number 12.  Or perhaps that number should be slightly higher.  We'll see.You see, boys and girls, the topic today is...

Today's blog is brought to you by the letters A to Z (that's Zed for our American friends) and the number 12.  Or perhaps that number should be slightly higher.  We'll see.

You see, boys and girls, the topic today is letters.  And I'm not talking about the letters that fill up Andrew Foley's word balloonery, as interesting and as well thought out as those are.

I'm talking letters here, as in letters to the editor written to you favourite (or possibly not so favourite) comic.  As we swirl ever closer to D-Day, the day when all the winning CCCN comics are live for everyone's viewing pleasure it got me thinking.

Wouldn't it be cool for each comic to have its own letters page?  Just like you see contained in many comics nowadays (as has been the tradition for years and years mostly), except we would see (hopefully, potentially at least), many more.

I don't know how this would work best, whether in the blogs, the forum (my guess) or some other random tesseract of space here on the site (sebzilla?).  It would also be cool if these letter pages were linked to the webcomics somehow.

I'm hoping the good folk of zeros2heroes agree with me.   I imagine the other winners of CCCN would like one too.  And I believe that the Reboot comic and Gutav Hayes and the other prototype comics might like one as well.

In closing, I'd like to do what Marvel and other comic companies used to do when a new comic started up, and that's to hold a contest to name the letters page.   I need a title for the letters page of Minus One and will award the winning entry one free basket of kittens!*

 

*in the event Lord Maim hears of  this offer all bets are off and the author may substitute any prize he wishes.  Or not.  Always read the fine print.

Top Rated Comment of 6

genrewriter

Thu May 29th, 2008 09:14

Every Z2H comic should definitely have its own forum topic. As for a name for the Minus One letters page? The best I can come up with at 2AM is: Minus One Plus You Okay, so I won't win the prize,...

  • +1
  • +1
So, how about that last post, huh? That sure got people talking. A couple people, anyway. And the question remains: What lettering approach did the creators of BLACK JACK OBREEN and I finally decide on?

Well, youll have...

So, how about that last post, huh? That sure got people talking. A couple people, anyway. And the question remains: What lettering approach did the creators of BLACK JACK O’BREEN and I finally decide on?

Well, you’ll have to read the book to find that one out. Ain’t I a stinker?

One more quick lettering thing before I move on--here’s a page from Stephen Cmelak’s KNIGHTCAP: NOVEMBER’S SONG, drawn and lettered by the incomparable John Keane. John’s got a bit of a weird sense of humour, sometimes. He realized there was something off-kilter about panel 2, and he left it this way anyway…



Yep, that dude’s butt is screaming.

John agreed to change the placement of the balloon tail in that panel, but there was a sadness in his voice as he agreed to do it, because more than any artist I know, John likes a good screaming butt gag. Who doesn’t, really?

Moving on. While the responses to last week’s post were all interesting, the one that’s stuck with me was this comment, from Mariathedreamer: “I think its (sic) a mistake to underestimate even the newer comic reader and certainly not the best strategy to cater to that newby reader.”

I’ve been thinking about this a lot since I read it. I wouldn’t take any issue with it at all if the subject under discussion was, say, creating depth of character, or an intricate plot. Those are things editors or the companies they represent have been known to stifle, on occasion, something I believe is disrespectful to readers and creators both.

But that wasn’t what was under discussion--what we were talking about was placing word balloons in such a way that any English-speaking reader would intuitively know which one to read first, while retaining the storytelling flow and obscuring the least, or the least important aspects of the art.

And when it comes to that, I actually think that, yes, the best strategy IS to cater to the newbie reader.

Let’s say for the moment that my call on the lettering was correct for the reasons I believe it was correct (I know some of you disagree, but let’s pretend): it’s the optimal placement to allow a new reader to comfortably read the dialogue while taking in and appreciating the visual elements of the piece.

In that case, one could argue that my wanting that placement was an attempt to cater to the newbie reader. What I don’t see is why that would be a problem.

Is a veteran comic reader going to throw down the comic in disgust on seeing my pandering to someone who isn’t used to reading panel by panel? The dialogue’s identical. The only possible difference is the perceived cadence of the conversation--something that relies largely on the perspective of the reader and which I’m not convinced is controllable via balloon placement in any but the most extreme circumstances.

So I just made it easier for a new reader to enjoy the comic I edited, and I can’t imagine doing so lost me any long-time comic readers. I can’t imagine many long-time comic readers would give such a balloon placement much thought at all. Nor should they. The only time an average comic reader--whose primary requirement of a comic is that it be entertaining or otherwise worth the time and cost--will notice a balloon placement is if it isn’t working.

There are a lot more people who aren’t used to reading comics than are. If it doesn’t interfere with the storytelling goals of the creators, why not make a book as readable for them as possible?

As for the perils of underestimating the newer reader: when it comes to creating an accessible reading experience (strictly in the formal sense of, you know, actually being able to read the dialogue in the correct order without having to reread panels), I believe the mistake would be--no, I believe a recurring mistake among many comics editors today IS--to overestimate them.

Several years ago, I got to see comedian Steven Wright perform live in a theatre that seated around six hundred people. In the middle of the show, he told a joke. Well, he told jokes all the way through the show, but this joke landed differently than any of the other ones. I don’t remember the set-up or the punchline; all I remember is that it hinged on the audience knowing that French Post-Impressionist painter Henri de Toulous-Lautrec was short.

At no point during the joke did Wright actually mention Toulouse-Lautrec’s stature. As it happens, I was aware of this trivial tidbit of information. I got the joke, thought it was funny, and howled with laughter…

…Laughter that echoed through a hall that was otherwise dead silent. As far as I could tell, I was the one person in that 600 watching who understood why what Wright had said was funny.

As I see it, one of two things happened on that particular night with that particular joke. Either:

1) Wright overestimated his audience’s knowledge of French Post-Impressionist painters, and the joke failed because of it, or

2) Wright knew not many people would know about TL’s height, and told the joke anyway. Maybe because he thought it was funny, maybe because he wanted to reward those few audience members who’d know what he was talking about. Doesn’t really matter. It especially doesn’t matter to me, because I got the joke.

This means that either the joke failed (because it overestimated the audience) or it succeeded on its own terms, but those terms were created with a different motivation than comedians usually have with their jokes (to get the biggest laugh possible.)

Some comic creators might want to make a book so formally obscure that only a certain kind of reader will be able to follow it. I’d argue that James Turner’s NIL and REX LIBRIS have that sort of quality, as well as much of Dave Sim’s later CEREBUS work and now glamourpuss. Hell, I think some could lump THE HOLIDAY MEN in there.

If Mark and Jessica came to me and said, “Andrew, we don’t just want the books we produce to be solid pieces of entertainment, we want to make sure it’s not going to entertain a non-comics reader,” well, the first thing I’d do is tweak the lettering to make it harder for the non-comic reader to follow.

Actually, that’s not true. The first thing I’d do is try to contain my immediate negative reaction to the idea and ask why they’d want to do that.

I can’t imagine why a company that’s building a community around work that’s not in the traditional North American comic format or genre would want to risk alienating any potential new comics fan. There’s no readers to gain in such a move, and plenty to lose.

So, again strictly on a reading accessibility level, I see no harm in underestimating the potential readership. I do, however, see a great risk in overestimating the ability of non-comics readers to intuitively grasp what long-time North American comic readers have been trained to accept as natural. And I see my own annoyance when I as a reader encounter lettering that hasn’t been given proper consideration in regards to any reader, new or old alike. It’s exactly that sort of annoyance that I want to avoid with my Z2H projects.

Hey, who put this soapbox here? Never mind, here’s some BLACK JACK O’BREEN pencils from Frank Grau, Jr.:

Well, there would've been some pencils from FGjr, but apparently the file size is too much for the blog to handle. The pencils are up in the Corporate Blog, and I'll go over and toss them up on the Black Jack O'Breen gallery, too.

Ever upward, heroes, ever upward.

Foley

Top Rated Comment of 14

Tenzil Kem

Thu May 29th, 2008 07:20

Foley, for sure you are right when you say the only time I notice the word balloons is when they screw up!

  • 0
  • 0
The first people's choice for the APTN Comic Creation Nation initiative will be announced at www.zeros2heroes.com on Friday,...

The first people's choice for the APTN Comic Creation Nation initiative will be announced at www.zeros2heroes.com on Friday, June 13th. If your pitch is "glowing gold" on the charts page on that day - its you! You will be contacted by our staff the following week and your journey into professional comic creatordom will begin... The remaining winners will be announced Friday June 20th and Friday June 27th. So! There is still plenty of time to get your submissions in - as of this moment, there are only 5 pitches on the charts - pretty incredible odds by anyone's standards. To check out the competition, click on: http://www.zeros2heroes.com/component/option,com_browser/ContentType,Pitch/Itemid,265/ And as always, feel free to post any questions here.

Cheers!

Jessica Leigh Clark

Creative Director - Zeros 2 Heroes


Top Rated Comment of 1

Tenzil Kem

Thu May 29th, 2008 06:41

I love Friday the 13th! Thirteen is actually my favorite number, so I consider this to be a great omen for the APTN participants. Good luck to you all!

  • 0
  • 0
NO it is not some experimental form of getting undressed without moving a muscle. This is for those of us who cannot make an extra click or two on a mouse. Again these strips are from old notebooks and were done as doodles but I hope you enjoy...

NO it is not some experimental form of getting undressed without moving a muscle. This is for those of us who cannot make an extra click or two on a mouse. Again these strips are from old notebooks and were done as doodles but I hope you enjoy just the same.

The link

http://www.zeros2heroes.com/strip/7

I aim to please

Later

Greg

Top Rated Comment of 2

Cancerbaby

Wed May 28th, 2008 21:18

I actually was kind of hoping for a method of undressing without much movement. But, considering the laziness, I'm not sure we'd want to see them naked anyway.

  • 0
  • 0
 We're in the home stretch. 

 

We're in the home stretch. 

No Comments

  • 0
  • 0
Hey hey everyone... I know... it's been a while. I'm been busy. Got about two more weeks and then I swing back into action with several comic ventures. I also might add that Samara Knight might be up for voting in an up and coming contest...

Hey hey everyone... I know... it's been a while. I'm been busy. Got about two more weeks and then I swing back into action with several comic ventures. I also might add that Samara Knight might be up for voting in an up and coming contest and I might call on some help from all my great friends on the site... but we'll see... more on that later...

 

Meanwhile, a few things. NOVEMBER'S SONG LOOKS AWESOME! I feel so justified that I voted, promoted, and supported that one since the start (don't believe me... check out the sly ad for it slipped into my first "Day in the Life of a ZED" strip [ http://www.zeros2heroes.com/strip/4] ... regular updates for that should be arriving by the beginning of July btw... I'll keep everyone posted). Honestly, everyone's projects are coming along very nicely! I can't wait to see them all in print.

But enough of all that... the real reason you came here... THE HEROES OF THE GRUDGE! :D Well... it's no longer called the Grudge (I came up with a better name) but I'll just keep calling it that as a working title. :P

If you don't know what pitch I'm talking about you can take a look here: 

http://www.zeros2heroes.com/pitch/462

Ironically, I actually have written the script for the first three books in the six book mini-series... I know. I should probably add those to the pitch but I've just been busy/lazy so I haven't had the time. But without further adu... I have you some of the latest art for the characters of the Grudge:

Captain Tremor (I'm not sure... should I go cape or no cape?)

Photobucket 

Photobucket

 

Sindy Quinn:

Photobucket

 

Hurricane: 

 Photobucket

 

Lone Wolf:

Photobucket

 

Jamie "Cloak" Sparks:

Photobucket 

 

 

"Sh